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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2008, 09:13:24 PM »

Does anyone really care that Palins daughter is pregnant? Why is that even news?
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008, 10:30:23 PM »

I think it's a combo of a few things...one being the cult of "celebrity" that is helping to dumb down Americans - two, some argue that it's hard for her to claim to represent the moral high ground when she's got a pregnant teen in her household. Personally, I look at it like this...She's 17. It's Alaska. What the hell else is there to do?
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 11:48:39 PM »

I'm not going to take side's here cuss even i don't know who i will be voting for yet but to answer the question about palins daughter:

it has everything to do with "the republican party" and there whole family values spiel. having a 17 yo pregnant unmarried daughter in her house makes her look bad due to her stances and the things she has said in the past about this very issue. it basically tells me that her stance on abstinence only education for kids doesn't work if she cant even convince her own daughter that it's the right way.

personally i also don't see it as a big deal but you gotta think that this is just one of the things she stands for that she cant enforce, family values is another big one for me. going back to work after 3 or 4 days after your premature, down syndrome child is born is not family values, in fact it's down right disgraceful. being a stay at home dad i can tell you how hard it is to take care of a normal child as most here can attest to but a child with downs is in a whole nother league. we have a few children who have this in our extended family and their parents can tell you horror story after horror story of the difficulties bringing up these children, yes there is mostly joy involved when having any child and for the most part all of these kids are awesome to be around now that there a little older but it took a lot of work to get them where they are at.

if the situation were turned around and it was one of the Dem's who had this situation i would feel the same exact way, but as it stand their biggest problems seem to be a lack of experience and lots of talk of change with little explanation of what they mean by it.

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 02:02:41 PM »

Does anyone really care that Palins daughter is pregnant? Why is that even news?

I think that it just represents how hypocritical she can be (or for that matter any political candidate), in that she wants to teach abstinence in school as a means of preventing teen pregnancy, and yet she cannot teach her own teenage daughter to abstain. I agree that families should be 'off-limits', but practice what you preach gives you more credibility.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 05:44:24 AM »

Does anyone really care that Palins daughter is pregnant? Why is that even news?

I think that it just represents how hypocritical she can be (or for that matter any political candidate), in that she wants to teach abstinence in school as a means of preventing teen pregnancy, and yet she cannot teach her own teenage daughter to abstain. I agree that families should be 'off-limits', but practice what you preach gives you more credibility.

Valid point. Personally I liked Obama`s reaction to it all.  `That`s family, it should be off-limits.`  Nothing like getting your muck rakers to find it and then make yourself look better by denouncing what they did.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 10:29:39 AM »

Yes I agree with you both Chris and Bill.  practice what you preach.  And like I said kudos to Obama for saying family is off limits.  Politics in the US seems to have gotten completely away from the candidates views to how much crap can we dig up on them and their families.  Personally I couldn't care less that the VP candidates kid is pregnant.  So what?  I couldn't care less what church Obama goes to.  As long as he works towards making this country better I don't care if he is an atheist.  What does it matter as long as he's not evil.  As far as I can see he's not evil but a good talker.  I'm still wondering what "change" is in his mind.  How refreshing would it be, just for once to actually hear a candidate speak his mind instead of pre-written responses to questions they think will come up or what you think people want to hear so you get elected.
What it comes down to is who do I believe more?  And who will let me keep the most of my money.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 04:55:15 PM »

Yes I agree with you both Chris and Bill.  practice what you preach.  And like I said kudos to Obama for saying family is off limits.  Politics in the US seems to have gotten completely away from the candidates views to how much crap can we dig up on them and their families.  Personally I couldn't care less that the VP candidates kid is pregnant.  So what?  I couldn't care less what church Obama goes to.  As long as he works towards making this country better I don't care if he is an atheist.  What does it matter as long as he's not evil.  As far as I can see he's not evil but a good talker.  I'm still wondering what "change" is in his mind.  How refreshing would it be, just for once to actually hear a candidate speak his mind instead of pre-written responses to questions they think will come up or what you think people want to hear so you get elected.
What it comes down to is who do I believe more?  And who will let me keep the most of my money.

I have to disagree with you on that point Randy, if the guys "spiritual advisor" preaches nothing but "Dam America" and racial hate I want to know about that.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2008, 06:41:40 PM »

Point well taken Joey.  I was actually referring to the rumors that he is Muslim.  I know that radical Muslims are a big problem in the world but I'd like to think that as a nation because someone is Muslim or Jewish or Catholic or Baptist it really shouldn't matter anymore as long as they are an honorable good person.  but maybe that's a whole nother discussion.
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