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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2010, 08:41:08 AM »
Here's another story on it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/30/AR2010113005292.html



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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2010, 09:01:38 AM »
this could possibly be voted on as early as next week, and hopefully it is.  The quicker they finish this, the better for everyone.  The problems come when they drag it out.  I knew that my fellow Soldiers would not care either way with this, especially when we are still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Now they have the survey as proof.
The question is will they listen to the soldiers

we shall see.  While the overall approval rate was high, there were still some lower numbers in the combat arms branches (the gung ho) guys.  The differene was not that great, but there was a difference, so we shall see.

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 01:04:09 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/15/gays.in.military/

It's through the house.

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The House of Representatives voted Wednesday to overturn the ban on openly gay and lesbian soldiers serving in the U.S. military, passing legislation repealing the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy.


 

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 01:15:34 PM »
one more hurdle yet

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2010, 05:31:35 PM »
And it's through the senate!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12028657

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Senators voted 65-31 to overturn the 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" law, which bars gay people in the military from revealing their sexual orientation.
 

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2010, 09:14:42 PM »
And it's through the senate!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12028657

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Senators voted 65-31 to overturn the 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" law, which bars gay people in the military from revealing their sexual orientation.

I was stunned.  Good for them!



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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2010, 09:22:40 PM »
yep and now to see how long it will take for it to be fully implemented

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2010, 09:59:16 PM »
I really don't care one way or another about gays in the military. I just think that it is not appropriate for our senators to spend so much time on that issue when there are more important issues that affect everyone. Such as the economy being in the $hitter, unemployment, violence at the Mexican border, terrorism. Those are things that can affect all of us, and should be their focus   :preachon:
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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2010, 01:43:03 AM »
So, they finally passed the right of gays to volunteer to die for their country ...
If nobody is going to bleed to death within the next 12 seconds, calm down there, Cowboy.

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2010, 02:58:27 AM »
prior to 1993 everybody who came into the military was asked their orientation.  If they said gay then they were refused to serve their country.  Don't Ask Don't tell allowed them to serve in the military without having to come out about it.  With the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, they can now OPENLY serve in the military.

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2010, 11:50:04 PM »
prior to 1993 everybody who came into the military was asked their orientation.  If they said gay then they were refused to serve their country.  Don't Ask Don't tell allowed them to serve in the military without having to come out about it.  With the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, they can now OPENLY serve in the military.

Exactly. I was in the service when this came about. It was a half-assed effort by our administration at the time to integrate gays (not meant in a derogatory way at all) in the military. It was a compromise. It allowed gays into the military in a quazi-legal way. There were and always have been gays in the military. This was meant to allow them into the military without lying about about it, but it did not fix the issue in the least, The issue was that the military did not allow gays in the service, period. The don't ask don't tell just made it so that it wasn't mentioned. Like I said half-assed. This is why I said in the beginning that repealing it was only half the battle. If all that happened was the DADT repeal then it could cause a purge of any gay that opened up. It looks like that was taken care of as well. Which in my opinion is the best part of all of this. :up:
 




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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2010, 09:41:13 AM »
Considering that gays have served in the U.S. military since the Revolution, and it's still the greatest army the world has ever seen, anybody who believes this will have a negative impact is ignoring history.
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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2010, 09:48:09 AM »
Considering that gays have served in the U.S. military since the Revolution, and it's still the greatest army the world has ever seen, anybody who believes this will have a negative impact is ignoring history.
well said   :plus1:

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Re: Do Ask and Do Tell...for now
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2010, 11:50:03 PM »
Considering that gays have served in the U.S. military since the Revolution, and it's still the greatest army the world has ever seen, anybody who believes this will have a negative impact is ignoring history.

Very true. :plus1:
 




 



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